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Kuga gallery : my kuga

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Author: tgo
Subject: my kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:29pm

Originally posted by 4wdKuga 4wdKuga wrote:

I think the MK1 is the better looking it just seems the proportions are spot on but apparently according to Joe public it wasn`t big enough so Ford stretched it with the MK2 and yet I found my MK1 had plenty of room perhaps I should have had more kids/dogs etc I also think the MK1 handles a bit better than my MK2.

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It does look nice, but it had the smallest bot in its class and was rightly lambasted for this, the mk 2 boot is better for those of us who use one.

Mk2 General Discussion : Please help

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Author: Sam b
Subject: Please help
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:42pm

I live quite close to Birmingham airport and I could sell separately would like to see £120 or nearest offer they are genuine Ford bars

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: Fillco
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:54pm

If there was a leak on the pressure side of the pump, (pipework and fixings from tank to engine) I'd expect there to be some indication of fuel leakage, as its a pressurised line you woldnt expect to draw air in. If no sign of fuel leakage because the fuel lines are 'sound', maybe air (even vapour from in the tank) is being drawn into the low pressure side of the fuel pump and causing it to cavitate.

When the engine is then stood for a while, air or vapour is maybe migrating to create the air or vapour lock that prevents you starting in a morning.

Bubbles should definitely not be there, if the bubbles were normal there would have to be some kind of vapour trap to prevent the vapour reaching the vaporiser and injectors.

Kuga gallery : my kuga

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Author: imjenks
Subject: my kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 6:56pm

my last 3 cars where zafira's which had big boots
when not using rear seats i also had the biggest
roofbox you could buy attached so dont know
what i was thinking when buying the kuga 😬😃
i could take the spacesaver tyre out,and i do have
the rear footwell storage area's

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: Ant
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 7:03pm

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

If there was a leak on the pressure side of the pump, (pipework and fixings from tank to engine) I'd expect there to be some indication of fuel leakage, as its a pressurised line you woldnt expect to draw air in. If no sign of fuel leakage because the fuel lines are 'sound', maybe air (even vapour from in the tank) is being drawn into the low pressure side of the fuel pump and causing it to cavitate.

When the engine is then stood for a while, air or vapour is maybe migrating to create the air or vapour lock that prevents you starting in a morning.

Bubbles should definitely not be there, if the bubbles were normal there would have to be some kind of vapour trap to prevent the vapour reaching the vaporiser and injectors.


All pointing to a the sender pump ?.......

Mk2 General Discussion : Goodbye To My Kuga

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Author: tgo
Subject: Goodbye To My Kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 7:48pm

It's not really groundbreaking that you'll get better mpg from a hatchback rather than a big ol SUV, you're not really comparing apples to apples are you. I'd argue too that bootspace isn't much different either.

boot seats up 406 litres
boot seats down 1603 litres

BMW Seats down 1600 litres, doesn't seem like a massive difference, bet your servicing/running costs too will be a lot higher.

It annoys me when people use pure MPG as their sole factor for having/keeping a car, it's just one small  factor, plus you have to be a bit realistic about what kind of MPG you can expect from something shaped  like a curvey house brick, irrespective of what the manufacturers figures say.

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: Fillco
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:39pm

If the pump is immersed its shouldn't cavitate or draw air or vapour I'd have thought.

Was it mentioned before the fuel would normally be prevented from back-flowing to the tank?

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: tarmo120
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:43pm

What I would do, is have someone do a fuel system pressure test and see if it can hold pressure for some time. I don't know how much, but it should definitely hold some pressure for a while.
I would not think the sender pump is the issue, since it should never have such a low level that it could draw air.

Mk2 General Discussion : Goodbye To My Kuga

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Author: ChrisC600
Subject: Goodbye To My Kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:51pm

Originally posted by tgo tgo wrote:

It's not really groundbreaking that you'll get better mpg from a hatchback rather than a big ol SUV, you're not really comparing apples to apples are you. I'd argue too that bootspace isn't much different either.

boot seats up 406 litres
boot seats down 1603 litres

BMW Seats down 1600 litres, doesn't seem like a massive difference, bet your servicing/running costs too will be a lot higher.

It annoys me when people use pure MPG as their sole factor for having/keeping a car, it's just one small  factor, plus you have to be a bit realistic about what kind of MPG you can expect from something shaped  like a curvey house brick, irrespective of what the manufacturers figures say.


Like I said before I didn’t change the car to get better fuel consumption, I changed mainly for the 520 litre seats up boot space and the huge difference in rear passenger space of the BMW. The 400 litre boot space and the cramped rear passenger space of the Kuga was to small for our needs. With three years free servicing running costs will be lower as well.

Edited by ChrisC600 - 12 hours 6 minutes ago at 8:54pm

Mk2 General Discussion : Goodbye To My Kuga

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Author: Trigg123
Subject: Goodbye To My Kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:55pm

Personally as plenty have said. It’s a big car. And for me the drive/gadgets and overall pleasure of driving my kuga make me really not worry what mpg it’s doing I love driving it end off. Got a big trip this weekend of about 800miles round and can’t wait to do it. Just my view like.

Mk2 General Discussion : Please help

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Author: Dancey51
Subject: Please help
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 8:57pm

Hi Sam, thank you. I wasn't looking to pay that much to be honest as would only need them couple of times a year. But I also live in Essex so bit of a trek anyway. Hope you sell them quickly

Mk2 General Discussion : Goodbye To My Kuga

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Author: ChrisC600
Subject: Goodbye To My Kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 9:16pm

Originally posted by dexterPicard dexterPicard wrote:



Originally posted by ChrisC600 ChrisC600 wrote:

We replaced it with a BMW 320D 5 Door GT Sport Auto.
I never had a BMW :)  I searched this one, and Xdrive must be your Automatic gear? If so, that model in Denmark is around 100% more expensive compared to my current car, even with all the extras i added. So i think i will leave that option for a possible future, but economy wise, i have no problems with my 35-38mpg here, if i have to pay that much more to get a better fuel economy (at least here in Denmark)

Over here the Kuga is not a cheap car with Titanium X AWD 180 Powershift with a few extras costing around £35,000 only a little less than a good specification 3 series BMW.

Mk2 General Discussion : Goodbye To My Kuga

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Author: Elmo9141
Subject: Goodbye To My Kuga
Posted: 25 Oct 2017 at 9:19pm

I had a 1ltr B-Max ecoboost which did 6.8L/100 and my Kuga 1.5ltr ecoboost is currently at 8.1L/100 on exactly the same driving route... and getting better.

So for a far larger car, more comfort and more toys I am paying, at current prices, 1.82€ extra per 100km - roughly 29€/month. Honestly as I had the money to buy an expensive car (it was 25000€ @ 8 months old) this is pocket change and does not even come into my thinking.

Plus the insurance is actually cheaper than the B-Max was Wink

Mk2 General Discussion : Goodbye To My Kuga

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Author: murcod
Subject: Goodbye To My Kuga
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 12:49am

Sounds like a nice car Chris. A lot later design than a Kuga and a lot more expensive here in Australia. I noticed BMW do the servicing packages here as well- I wonder what the costs are like after that initial 3 year period? (I was contemplating a second hand X3 or X5 instead of my Kuga.)

Mk2 General Discussion : Titanium X Sport to ST Line ???

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Author: phoneman
Subject: Titanium X Sport to ST Line ???
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 7:00am

I currently have the Titanium X Sport and have my eye on 2.0 diesel FWD ST Line. It’s a Ford Direct car and is loaded with options and although test drive is booked for tomorrow I would like opinions of other ST Line drivers about the car, good and bad.......thanks guys

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: hillybilly
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 8:58am

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

If the pump is immersed its shouldn't cavitate or draw air or vapour I'd have thought.

Was it mentioned before the fuel would normally be prevented from back-flowing to the tank?

That is correct the pump in the tank provides fuel pressure to the high pressure pump when the
Engine is running the high presure pump takes over the presure in the fuel line becomes a
Vacum so air is entering the system at or around the fuel filter or fuel line .
The lift pump in the tank could never produce enough flow to maintain the working presure in
The fuel rail.
Also it is quite common for these plastic filter bodies to crack and cause issues.

Edited by hillybilly - 3 minutes ago at 9:02am

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: Fillco
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 9:14am

I was thinking the tank pump supplies the high pressure pump, of which the latter provides the high pressure required to vaporise the fuel. If its a vacuum in the pipework that's a different scenario.

Mk2 Towing : Breakdown Insurance

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Author: PB23
Subject: Breakdown Insurance
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 9:26am

Hello All,
Just about to buy a caravan and was wondering what breakdown cover other caravanners have and if you have ever had the need to use it was it any good. I currently have green flag but have researched and cover through CC Club or Camping and caravan club have additional benefits.

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: hillybilly
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 9:27am

Hi filco as long as the filter and pipework remains intact there is no need for pump in tank
Just a thought is there a screen on the fuel pick up in the tank if it's part blocked it would restrict fuel flow .air would then enter at weakest point .

Mk1 Technical : Ford kuga fuel filter bypass

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Author: Ant
Subject: Ford kuga fuel filter bypass
Posted: 26 Oct 2017 at 9:28am

Originally posted by hillybilly hillybilly wrote:

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

If the pump is immersed its shouldn't cavitate or draw air or vapour I'd have thought.

Was it mentioned before the fuel would normally be prevented from back-flowing to the tank?

That is correct the pump in the tank provides fuel pressure to the high pressure pump when the
Engine is running the high presure pump takes over the presure in the fuel line becomes a
Vacum so air is entering the system at or around the fuel filter or fuel line .
The lift pump in the tank could never produce enough flow to maintain the working presure in
The fuel rail. It's main function is to pump fuel to
It is quite common for these plastic filter bodies to crack causing issues with leaks and air ingress into the fuel system.


The fuel filter body is aluminium and the lid is plastic........
I have chkd where the pipes connections that feed the filter and no signs of leakage.
These pipes are only short pipes that feed the filter and then i presume from where the pipe connects is another pipe that runs all the way back to the fuel tank in other words the fuel pipe from the tank to the filter is two lengths......

What concerns me is that when you increase the flow via the acelerator the bubbles flow increases significantly.....
So to me the air as to be dragged from some where from the tank to the filter........
Surely the filter housing being made from aluminium isnt in some way drawing in the air.....

Anybody any idea how much the fuel line from the tank to the filter is....


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