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Mk2 Towing : New Kuga st line x Towbar. novice caravanner

July 10, 2017, 9:57 am
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Author: TonyBurton
Subject: New Kuga st line x Towbar. novice caravanner
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 4:57pm

If you can afford a new ST line then I should go the whole hog and get the towbar fitted by Ford. An add on towbar may well not function correctly with the in built trailer control function. It will come with a single black socket, but it sounds as if you have an old caravan with two plugs. The caravan will need a conversion plug to fit the new socket. I had an add on towbar fitted. It's a great tow car, but is not compatible with the trailer control function on the car.
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 10:45 am
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Author: Wrawby Kuga mk2
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 5:45pm

18" wheels Continental tyres !
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 11:12 am
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Author: Fillco
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 6:12pm

Size of course should not make much difference other than rolling resistance.
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 11:24 am
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Author: dexterPicard
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 6:24pm

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

Size of course should not make much difference other than rolling resistance.
When you compare figures here, and do not really take into account, that some people here got 17" on their Kuga, while others got 19", im sure if they care to mention more often, that those , like me, with 19" would have a low mpg and as mentioned before those with 17" got alot more mpg.  
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 11:54 am
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Author: hillybilly
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 6:54pm

The actual overall wheel size is not much differant the 19 inch wheels use a much lower
Profile tyre that is much firmer but not much differant circumferance

Edited by hillybilly - 9 minutes ago at 6:56pm
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 12:16 pm
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Author: dexterPicard
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 7:16pm

Originally posted by hillybilly hillybilly wrote:

The actual overall wheel size is not much differant the 19 inch wheels use a much lower
Profile tyre that is much firmer but not much differant circumferance
That was not the case for Danish 19" then, and in my case, not at all.

The more wheel touching the ground, the more fuel you spent on driving, so if you have the 18" and get 19" with same overall size, except being 19", you still got 3.8% more touching grounds here.
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Mk2 Technical : Front washers stopped spraying

July 10, 2017, 1:03 pm
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Author: tractorboy
Subject: Front washers stopped spraying
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:03pm

I would pull the pipes off the back of the jets and blow compressed air down the jets.  Then run the washer before reconnecting the pipes.

Bob
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 1:23 pm
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Author: Fillco
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:23pm

Originally posted by dexterPicard dexterPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

Size of course should not make much difference other than rolling resistance.
When you compare figures here, and do not really take into account, that some people here got 17" on their Kuga, while others got 19", im sure if they care to mention more often, that those , like me, with 19" would have a low mpg and as mentioned before those with 17" got alot more mpg.  


Well in my case from 16" winters were maybe 1-2 mpg better than the summer Continentals and I put that down to the winter having a softer rubber so less effort to roll than the harder rubber. One might think it would be the other way round as the winter has a higher sidewall of softer rubber so the tyre sits lower. However if it did this, the tyre diameter would be different and would give extraneous results, so as hillbilly mentions, the tyre diameter of all sizes with the correct aspect (sidewall to width) are effectively the same.

Its worth noting that between 18" and 19" the PSI is the same, but the 19" has more area at that pressure touching the road because it is wider, unless of course we find the tyre sits higher so it has the same area touching the road as an 18".

The calculated difference between my 19" and 16" is 0.2%. You could achieve more than this differential buy having just a few PSI/mbar low or high of air.

I'm struggling with the idea of more rubber touching the road as effort is not lost in that and doesn't add to rolling resistance. I don't know enough about tyre technology to think beyond this.


Edited by Fillco - 44 minutes ago at 8:40pm
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Mk2 Technical : rear brake pad wear

July 10, 2017, 1:29 pm
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Author: Alan1005
Subject: rear brake pad wear
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:29pm

Perhaps it's the percentage of material left on the pads... 30% left on front and 70% left on rear.... Even though the forms my local Ford dealer used stated % wear the dealer used to put the % left.... A phone call should answer this
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 1:42 pm
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Author: dexterPicard
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:42pm

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

 The calculated difference between my 19" and 16" is 0.2%. You could achieve more than this differential buy having just a few PSI/mbar low or high of air.
Then you must have went from something like 235/60/16 to 235/45/19 ?  But if you change the overall size, you can easily get 3%+ without being wrong, so it could be a 235/40/19 (legal size in Denmark) , then you have a different fuel economy. 

Lastly, lets not forgot the quality of the fyres used, you can easily have a C+ in fuel economy and others with A+ , and that alone affect your driving as well.

Originally posted by Fillco Fillco wrote:

 I'm struggling with the idea of more rubber touching the road as effort is not lost in that and doesn't add to rolling resistance. I don't know enough about tyre technology to think beyond this.
I got this from a mechanic and to confirm it , i asked in danish forums and didnt get any opposite story there. So larger wheel , worse fuel economy.


Edited by dexterPicard - 37 minutes ago at 8:47pm
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Mk2 How-To? : MK 2 oil filter change

July 10, 2017, 1:55 pm
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Author: keithmac
Subject: MK 2 oil filter change
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 8:55pm

Does the sump plug have a crush washer underneath it?, any idea what size it is?.

Doing my engine oil next Sunday to make sure it's been done right..
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Mk2 General Discussion : Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG

July 10, 2017, 2:00 pm
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Author: Fillco
Subject: Mk2 Kuga fuel consumption / Miles Per Gallon MPG
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 9:00pm

235/24 19     215/65 16     0.2% difference.

Think of this, the same force is supporting the car is the same on whatever size wheel you fit so the same amount of rubber maybe touching the road, barring stiffness of rubber.


Edited by Fillco - 22 minutes ago at 9:02pm
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Mk2 Towing : New Kuga st line x Towbar. novice caravanner

July 10, 2017, 2:27 pm
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Author: magnetic st line
Subject: New Kuga st line x Towbar. novice caravanner
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 9:27pm

id give it a couple of thousand miles if your getting a new kuga before towing duties ensoo
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Mk2 Towing : New Kuga st line x Towbar. novice caravanner

July 10, 2017, 2:53 pm
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Author: Paul59
Subject: New Kuga st line x Towbar. novice caravanner
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 9:53pm

If you are ordering a new factory kuga then i would most definitely have the factory tow bar.No warranty issues with aftermarket electrics and the retractable will look so much better.
The car comes with the 13 pin plug so if you have an older caravan i would get a local towbar fitter to put an new 13 pin plug on the caravan.Not all pins need to work but just saves you using any adaptors for the electrics. 
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Mk2 General Discussion : Kuga 2 Workshop Manual

July 10, 2017, 3:08 pm
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Author: DennisA
Subject: Kuga 2 Workshop Manual
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 10:08pm

Hi,

New to this forum and I am picking up a 64 Reg 2.0L Titanium X auto in a few days.

Has anyone managed to find anywhere with a workshop manual for the Kuga 2, I can find many sites with downloads etc but all for 2008 to 2012 Kuga 1 cars?

Brgds Dennis
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Mk2 How-To? : MK 2 oil filter change

July 10, 2017, 3:13 pm
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Author: Kuga61
Subject: MK 2 oil filter change
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 10:13pm

Not sure on size but it's not a copper crush washer.
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Mk2 General Discussion : Just realized

July 10, 2017, 3:44 pm
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Author: Ozekuga
Subject: Just realized
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 10:44pm

The engine was developed by Mazda when they were part of the Ford empire.
After the falling out and subsequent divorce the new 2.0L Ecoboost now fitted from MY17 is a complete Ford design.
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Mk2 Technical : rear brake pad wear

July 10, 2017, 3:49 pm
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Author: Ozekuga
Subject: rear brake pad wear
Posted: 10 Jul 2017 at 10:49pm

Also the torque vectoring is achieved by using the brakes to counter understeer.
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Mk2 General Discussion : Kuga 2 Workshop Manual

July 10, 2017, 8:54 pm
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Author: murcod
Subject: Kuga 2 Workshop Manual
Posted: 11 Jul 2017 at 3:54am

There is a Spanish Kuga forum that has the MkII to download. From memory it's actually the USA Escape manual, but is mostly the same. Unfortunately I didn't bookmark the link.
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Mk2 General Discussion : Just realized

July 10, 2017, 9:10 pm
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Author: murcod
Subject: Just realized
Posted: 11 Jul 2017 at 4:10am

Ford did own a controlling share of Mazda up to 2008. http://www.autonews.com/article/20150824/INDUSTRY_ON_TRIAL/308249993/how-fords-partnership-with-mazda-unraveled

This article suggests there isn't much in common between the two apart from the block http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/24/is-ford-2-0-liter-ecoboost-four-mazdaspeed3-four-not-really/

(I had a 2006 Mazda 6 that had "FordMoCo" parts all over the 2.3l engine. That engine was also used in the local Escape, which was basically a clone of the Mazda Tribute.)
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